Ducks lay eggs. Except when they don’t.
Why aren’t my ducks laying? Why did my ducks suddenly stop laying? When will my ducks lay? Shouldn’t my ducks be laying more eggs than this? It’s one of the most frustrating issues people have with their ducks, and also one of the most frequent complaints I hear.
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The definitive answer is here. Every “my ducks aren’t laying eggs!” case I’ve ever heard of can be attributed to one or more of these fifteen causes:
- She’s not old enough.
- She’s too old.
- She’s actually a he.
- The days are too short.
- The weather is too extreme.
- Something is stealing the eggs.
- She’s hiding the eggs.
- She’s eating the eggs.
- She’s randomly laying the eggs wherever, rather than in a nest.
- She isn’t getting the nutrition she needs.
- She’s molting.
- She’s broody.
- She’s sick.
- She’s stressed.
- She’s obese.
Let’s go into a bit more detail.
She’s not old enough.
Ducks normally start laying around five to six months of age. Some people expect them to mature earlier. Also, just seeing your ducks mating doesn’t mean they’re ready to produce eggs, because drakes are able to mate before female ducks are ready to lay. Read “When do ducks start laying eggs?” for more.
She’s too old.
If you bought adult ducks from someone else who didn’t mention their age, it’s possible they’re too old to lay. Or if your ducks have been laying less and less as the years pass, it’s because they’re getting older. Ducks lay the most during their first year, and gradually slow as they age. By four or five, they probably won’t be very productive. By seven, they may have completely stopped. Keep in mind that it varies a lot and these are just averages. I currently have six-year-olds that still seem to lay quite well, and some people have ten-year-olds that still lay. Read “When do ducks stop laying eggs?” for more on when ducks stop laying.
Keep in mind that your duck hatches with all the eggs she will ever lay already inside her. This means that technically, you can’t make your ducks lay more (through artificial lighting and other techniques). You can only make them empty their supply faster. If you’ve been pushing your ducks to lay as fast as they can, they will run out of eggs sooner. This also mean that ducks such as Khaki Campbells will stop laying sooner than something like an Aylesbury. You can’t expect your duck to lay steadily for 5+ years if it’s a Khaki Campbell that has been eating a high-protein diet and been living in artificially extended days. She might have to call it quits by three.
She’s actually a he.
Are you absolutely sure your ducks are females? Sellers aren’t necessarily trustworthy. Last year, I bought four geese from a lady who claimed the all-gray geese were females and the saddleback (part gray, part white) ones were males. There are a few breeds of geese that you can sex by color, but I was suspicious because I didn’t think ours were one of those breeds. Sure enough, one of the saddleback geese started laying not long after we got her, and both of the gray geese were ganders.
Read “How to Tell if Your Duck is Boy or a Girl” if you’re not sure how to tell whether your ducks are males or females. If you have Muscovies, read this article: 10 Effective Ways to Sex Your Muscovy Duck.
By the way, have you ever actually witnessed a duck laying an egg? Here’s a closeup video of my two adorable Muscovy duck sisters, Peaches and Mitzi, laying their eggs:
The days are too short.
I think this is the most common answer to the complaint, “My ducks aren’t laying!” There are very few breeds of ducks that will lay all year round, and even those don’t necessarily lay if there isn’t enough light. Ideally, ducks need 14 to 16 hours of light per day in order to lay at their maximum potential. Many flock raisers get around this problem by giving their ducks artificial light to lengthen their “day.” Here’s information on giving artificial light to your ducks to boost their laying: How to Use Lights to Increase Duck Egg Production.
In some locations where days get very short, ducks only start laying during their first spring after they’re old enough. For example, if they hatched in March, they’d be old enough to lay around September, but by that time the days would be too short, so they would only start the next spring, most likely only after all the snow has melted. Even more extreme, but not impossible, would be a duck that hatched in January, is mature enough to lay in June, but doesn’t start laying until next April—when she is sixteen months old!
Some breeds of ducks are seasonal layers and only lay in spring no matter how long the days are. Many meat breeds and other breeds not bred for extreme egg production are like this. Mallards, for example, will likely only lay two or three clutches a year, all in spring.
Even if the days should be long enough, are your ducks kept in a dark barn or coop? If their living area is too dark, they won’t know when the sun comes up, and thus the day will seem shorter and they may not lay.
The weather is too extreme.
Temperature extremes will prevent a duck from laying. If you live in an extremely hot climate or if your ducks don’t have adequate shade or constantly-available cool water, they may not lay much. Cold also influences their laying. Muscovies are especially sensitive to cold and it can be difficult to get them to lay if there’s snow on the ground.
Even just ordinary weather changes can temporarily mess up laying cycles. I’ve noticed that our ducks lay less if we’re having a cloudy or rainy spell, although that could just be because the sun is covered in clouds and thus it seems like it takes longer to rise.
Something is stealing the eggs.
Here’s another major cause. Our German Shepherd puppy, Nora, quickly became an egg thief once she started discovering nests, although we were able to nip the habit in the bud. Foxes have also stolen many, many of our eggs.
If your ducks free range (like ours), this is a likely reason. To prevent foxes or other animals from stealing the eggs, keep your ducks locked up in a coop until they have laid their eggs. What time they lay varies a lot, but most ducks will be finished laying by 8 AM. Read “What time do ducks lay their eggs?” for more. If you go to work before this time, you might consider investing in an automatic coop door.
Unfortunately, some ducks are so desperate to lay in whatever hidden nest they deem superior to what they have in their coop that they will hold their eggs until they are let out, even if it’s past noon, so keeping them in the coop isn’t necessarily foolproof.
Even if they are in a coop all morning and/or spend the day in an enclosed run, be sure that there are no gaps that an animal could slip through. Even small animals such as mice, rats, and snakes can be thieves. You may need to predator-proof your coop.
She’s hiding the eggs.
Your duck herself is an even more likely culprit than a wily fox. She may be laying, just not where you expect! It’s hard to convince some ducks that your nest is the best place to lay. My ducks have laid eggs in wheelbarrows that were covered and I thought could not be entered, clumps of thick grass (saw grass, at that!), bushes on the neighbor’s property, under tarps, and pretty much any hidden, dark area they could find. One of mine even thought about laying inside an empty cement mixer. Here’s an article I wrote on defeating those sneaky ladies who hide their eggs—although I can tell you from personal experience that it’s pretty much impossible to completely prevent them from hiding eggs without taking away their free ranging privileges or at least keeping them locked up in a coop or run until noon.
She’s eating the eggs.
Ducks don’t normally eat their eggs. However, once upon a time, a duck might accidentally break one of her eggs. Then she tastes it and…yum! And it becomes a habit to break and eat all her eggs, and maybe also the eggs of other ducks. Here are two articles on Backyard Chickens about breaking an egg-eater. They are about chickens, but they apply to ducks as well.
Six Tips on Breaking Your Egg-Eater
Egg Eating: What are the Causes, and How to Prevent It
She’s randomly laying the eggs wherever, rather than in a nest.
Don’t assume that eggs will only pop up inside a nest box. Some ducks have zilch interest in nests, especially the ones that are the most prolific egg-layers, such as Runners and Khaki Campbells. They will drop their egg wherever they happen to be when they feel the egg coming. If they have a pond, they might be dropping the eggs in their pond. If they free range, the eggs could be anywhere in the grass. To be sure you are able to collect her eggs, make sure she stays locked up in a coop or small run until it’s late enough in the day that she should have laid her egg.
She isn’t getting the nutrition she needs.
A duck that relies on the food it gets from free ranging, or one that only receives “treat” foods such as lettuce and watermelon is not getting enough nutrition—especially protein—to regularly lay. Also, feeding plain corn, scratch, or any commercial feed with inadequate protein will cause problems. A laying duck’s diet needs to contain approximately 17% protein.
Of course free ranging is natural, and ducks in the wild don’t have any trouble laying. The problem is, they won’t lay nearly the amount of eggs we might expect, because today’s perfectly computed feeds have been crafted to squeeze out every egg the duck is capable of laying. In the wild, they only need a few clutches. If you want your ducks to find all their food free ranging, that’s great, but you simply cannot expect 300 eggs a year, because that’s an unnatural amount and can only be achieved through unnatural feeding.
Lack of calcium is another nutritional problem that can completely stop a duck from laying. Most flock raisers offer their birds free choice oyster shell or crushed eggshells to be sure they have adequate calcium.
Ducks normally molt (replacing all their old feathers with new ones) once a year, and they can’t lay and molt at the same time, because both eggs and feathers contain high levels of protein, and it’s too difficult to produce both at once. Your ducks WILL molt once a year (usually in winter) and you can’t stop that. However, problems arise when a duck is taking too long to molt or is molting more than once a year. Ducks in regions with long periods of short winter days may take up to six months to molt. A diet with low protein levels will also prolong the molting period. A sudden shortening of days may also trigger a molt (for example, if you suddenly start putting your ducks in a dark coop before the sun is down, or if your artificial light fails). A very stressful event can also cause a molt.
It’s easy to tell when a duck is broody. She will sit consistently on her nest, only leaving it to drink and eat once or twice a day. She will probably hiss and peck at anyone who comes near her. Ducks often go broody right after laying a clutch, even if you’ve picked the eggs. If you don’t break her broodiness, she’ll sit on that nest for the full 28 days required for eggs to incubate and hatch (regardless of whether she actually has eggs under her), and she won’t lay during that period or even for some time after. If your duck goes broody and you aren’t intending on letting her hatch any babies, you’ll have to break her up in order for her to get back to normal life and start laying again.
If your duck has just hatched ducklings, don’t expect her to lay eggs for at least two months. She won’t lay while she’s raising ducklings.
Observe your ducks for at least a few minutes a day. Be sure they’re active, eating and drinking well, and in good health. A duck that sits in the corner with droopy feathers, not eating much, if at all, is probably sick, and probably won’t lay. Parasites will also prevent a duck from laying. Be sure to rule this out when trying to pin down the cause of the absence of eggs.
Stress will hamper a duck’s laying ability severely, or even completely prevent her from laying. Is there anything stressful that frequently happens to your duck–being chased, being picked up and petted or held a lot (some ducks enjoy this, but many don’t), being in a pen that is too small, enduring unhygienic living conditions, being bullied by chickens or other animals frequently, not always having water available, or something else? Being mated too often is also stressful, so it’s not recommended to keep ducks in pairs.
Sudden changes in her lifestyle, such as being moved from one home to another, will also cut off her laying temporarily. If you just got your ducks, don’t expect eggs until they’ve had time to settle down and get used to their new surroundings. Adding new ducks to a flock can upset and stress them all, temporarily, due to the pecking order changes.
Some ducks are gluttons, and obese ducks don’t lay. Ducks, like humans, are perfectly capable and in fact quite likely to eat way more than they really need to. If she’s locked up all day with no ability to forage, with food available 24/7, she could be overeating. I recommend rationing your ducks’ food, as well as not leaving it laying around all day long, and instead giving your ducks two meals a day.
Also, feeding too many treats that have little nutrition, such as scratch, bread, and lettuce, will fill her up with food that doesn’t give her much nutrition, and thus she’ll use it for fat rather than eggs.
When trying to pin down the exact reason your ducks are not laying, these are the main factors to consider:
- Your duck’s age
- Your duck’s breed
- Your duck’s feeding habits
- Where your ducks live
- What time of year it is
- What your ducks’ daily routine and living area is like
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I have an Indian runner. The seller said she is a year old. We got her in June this year. She is active, lively and comes when I call her name. She has not laid a single egg. I can rule out stress as a factor. Should I begin to worry? Thank you.
Is it possible for you to rule anything else out? I can’t help you a whole lot beyond the information in the article without more information. For example:
1. Describe her living area. How protected is it? How large is it?
2. Describe her schedule. When does she eat? Where is she during the day, and during the night?
3. Describe her diet. What does she eat? How much does she eat? How often does she eat?
4. Is she alone? Being alone IS stressful. I am not sure if lack of a companion is stressful enough to prevent laying, but I recommend getting her a companion either way.
Try looking over the list at the top of the article again to rule out more possibilities. I can also try to help you more, if you provide a little more information.
Often, ducks only start laying in spring regardless of age, although that’s rather unusual for an Indian Runner. Still, I wouldn’t actually worry unless she still doesn’t lay this coming spring.
I hope that helps!
I have 14 khaki cambles I just add a Indian runner drake 3 weeks ago know the the girls are only laying 6 eggs a day instead of 12 to 14 is there a reason
The addition of new birds can upset the flock dynamics and cause enough stress to cause ducks to stop laying. If the drake is aggressive, that could especially hinder laying. If they’re in a small pen, that could further exacerbate the issue.
Has anything else changed since you got the drake–the weather, the feed, even the feeding schedule?
There’s a chance adding a new bird could bring in diseases, but you would probably see your birds becoming sick if that was the case.
Anyway, I suspect the addition of the drake is the reason they’re laying less. Hopefully they’ll increase their egg production again soon!
Hi, my Indian runner lost her drake a month ago to my very bad dog. She has not layed an egg since. What can I do to destress her?she runs around with her head low to the ground, she looks like she is hunting I have eight chickens that she has grown up with she’s about a year old and I really don’t want another duck but will get one if it will help her. her? Please give me some ideas
Yes, please do get another duck for her. Ducks don’t do well alone, and they can’t communicate with chickens the same way they can with their own kind. If you’re only going to get one, a female would probably be better, especially since you have chickens.
Hi I was given 3 Indian runner ducklings 2 males & 1 female last year. Despite the male to female ratio she was happy & laying nearly every day. Over the summer I was given 2 female Pekin ducks (unknown age) & after a short period of time they seem to assimilate with the Indian runners. I thought this would take the mating pressure off the female Indian runner. She stopped laying a couple months ago and I chalked it up to molting which she was definitely doing but this process has since been completed but she has yet to resume laying any eggs. The 2 Perkins have laid eggs but not the runner. The one thing I notice that seems rather odd is she actually seems distressed when the male runners mate the pekins. So I’m completely baffled by all this bc prior to molting she was the most dependable layer easily outlaying all my chickens. Diet is the same, routine is normal. Is there anything I can do to help this situation?
To me, the time of year seems like the most likely “culprit.” By the time she finished molting, the days were too short for her to lay. It depends on where you live, of course, but many people’s ducks aren’t laying much, if at all, right now. Runners tend to be better at laying during the winter than other breeds, but even they can use some help. Make sure her diet has plenty of protein and her shelter is warm and dry. To coax her into laying more, you can consider adding an artificial light so she’ll think the days are getting longer. Many people use artificial lights for their chickens and ducks in order to get eggs during the winter. If you’d rather not, then I think she’ll probably start laying again in spring.
Her distress over seeing the Runners mate the Pekins is interesting, but I don’t know if that has anything to do with laying. The onset of winter is the most likely reason.
Hope that helps!
My name is Lachlan, I’ve recently bought 7 ducks but only one of them is laying. 3 are khaki Campbell’s and the others are Muscovy’s. I’ve moved them into a yard that is about 5meters long and 3meters wide made out wire so they can get as much light as possible. But, I’m only getting one egg or none a day. How can I get the others to start laying?
How recently did you get them? The stress of moving can hamper laying for up to 4 weeks. And it’s possible for the break to be even longer if it’s winter or approaching winter, which it is. If they molt (and stress can trigger a molt), that will also stop them from laying for around 3-6 weeks. And if they’re older (3+ years old), all of these things will have an even bigger effect.
The Muscovies probably won’t lay again until next spring, unfortunately. I’m not sure about the Khakis. Hopefully they will still lay this year. If they molt or are molting, they probably won’t.
Parsley is supposed to be a laying stimulant. If they aren’t molting, you could perhaps try it. You could also perhaps try using supplemental light to convince them to lay despite the shortening days. Giving them extra protein may also help to speed up molting.
I I’ve got 2 Campbell females around 8 moths old. One lays big eggs daily and the other use to lay smaller eggs but now hasn’t laid a egg in months! They have a very large outside wild area during the day and have a secure house at night with access to dry food only at night. There doesn’t seem to be anything stressing the girls out and they are both friendly and seem in good health. But we have no idea when one duck is laying but the other isn’t as they have the same diet/ lifestyle.
I’m sorry for the late reply. Is she still not laying? That doesn’t sound normal. I don’t really know. Maybe she has some nutritional deficiency? Those often affect one individual more than another. Is she on a good layer feed with free-choice calcium?
Do you mean you only feed them at night? Perhaps she needs more food. Or maybe there is a source of stress you’ve overlooked? Nutritional issues and stress are the main reasons for small eggs and can also cause no eggs.
You could perhaps have a vet look at her if that’s an option for you.
I have 3 ducks who have stopped laying. Nothing has changed except for their age …. but the oldest is 6 and youngest 4 . I did get one egg the other day but this is odd. I do have a male who can be an idiot. 3 females and one male- 2 Pekin and two Cayuga… I have not changed up their food. They do not freerange unless supervised and all 3 could be a bit overweight….. but weight hasn’t really changed. Stumped in southern maine
How long has it been since they were laying regularly? A month? Several months? A year?
I’m guessing age is the main factor. They’re old enough they definitely have slowed down a lot. Some ducks stop laying as early as 5 or 6 years old, although 7-9 years is more common. Cayugas aren’t very productive layers in the first place. Pekins vary a lot.
If they’re not free-ranging much and “could be a bit overweight,” that does sound like a possibility. Pekins, more than any other breed, are prone to becoming overweight. It’s not a good idea to free-feed Pekins. Try rationing their feed and see if that helps.
What are they eating?
Do they look healthy and active?
Do you think there might be anything stressing them?
You could perhaps try deworming them.
Hope that helps!
I have 3 Indian runner ducks, 2 female one Male, they started laying an eggs day about a month ago (the females obviously), two days ago dotty just stopped laying.
They live in a 50f x 50f enclosure with a small pond, fresh water bowls spread around and a wooden coop at ground level with fresh straw daily that I lock them in at dusk and let them out at dawn, they are fed on duck and goose mixed grain twice a day with mealwarm treats, once a day they are let out onto the main garden to forrage for about an hour or two. As far as we are aware nothing has changed but one just stopped laying eggs, she is active and seems healthy, Any advice please.
That was just two days ago? And she’s not broody? I’m not sure, but I would guess that she’s just taking a short break and will resume in a few days. My hybrid commercial layer chickens lay almost every single day, but occasionally one will take a break for a day or two.
Do you think she could have chosen a hidden place to lay her eggs? Perhaps in the garden or somewhere outside of the enclosure, or in some hidden corner of their coop? A while back my chicken eggs dropped (I’m using chickens as an example because my ducks are Muscovies and Muscovies are not prolific layers like Indian Runners or these chickens), and it turned out that one of the hens had made a nest in the very back corner of our storage area, where almost no one ever goes.
Beyond that, I’m not sure. It’s possible that this is the first sign of some sickness, but it’s unlikely. Most likely, she’s either taking a break or laying somewhere you don’t know.
Hope that helps!
Thanks for your reply, not sure if she is broody as never kept ducks before tbh, but she is not keeping to the nest she makes in the straw she is out with the other ducks.
Yes she has only not played for two days now but I got home tonight to find spots of blood in and around the coop, not a lot just maybe a dozen or so spots, I have checked them all for wounds but none seem to be injured, they are all as active as normal, the one not laying did a nice solid poo while I was looking at her and she didn’t look like she was straining or anything (I read something about egg bound ducks), at this stage i will just have to wait and see what happens tomorrow, I hope I am just being a “mother hen” over anxious first time mother, will keep you updated xxx
I have 2 Indian Runners that are 2 years old (I got them Feb 2017). They live with a 1 1/2 yr old female goose and next door to them in the run lives 5 chickens. They have never had a problem with laying previously. They went into their usual moult in Feb (we live in Australia) and have not laid since then. Last year they went back to laying 1 per 2 days as the days were getting shorter. Would it be the crazy weather we have been having that has hampered their return to laying? – one minute its like summer, then next its winter! or a change in feed, my son recently brought the wrong bag of feed. Thanks for your advice
Yes, the feed change and the weather could certainly be factors. I’ve noticed that frequent weather changes can really mess up my ducks’ laying.
What type of feed is it? If it isn’t specifically for laying birds, it’s possible they need extra calcium. Even if it is laying feed, they may still need a calcium supplement in order to lay well.
You’re also approaching winter, so maybe they think the days are too short already. Most ducks molt right before winter and then lay again in spring. February seems a bit early to molt to me, but I’m not really familiar with weather in Australia. Or maybe they actually haven’t finished molting? Molting can sometimes be dragged out over more than a month, especially if the diet isn’t high enough in protein.
Also, most Runners lay extremely well–but mainly just for the first few years. Breeds that lay a lot, won’t lay for long. They slow down much faster. However, I think they’re still a bit young to show any major decrease in egg production.
Some of the other factors in the list in my article could be possible as well. Do you think worms could be a possibility? Worms can prevent or decrease laying. Some people deworm their flock regularly.
It’s hard to say for sure, but I do think the weather is one of the most likely factors, and possibly the feed too. You might consider trying to counteract the effect by adding artificial light in their coop. Many flock raisers use artificial light in order to trick their birds into thinking the days are longer than they are.
Hope that helps!
Hi, I have 8 ducks in total. 3 juvenile females two of which have been laying every day and 5 x 2 month old ducklings, one of which is definitely a male. Last week my 8 month old laying Buff Orpington started to go broody. The eggs she was laying can’t possibly be fertile as the only male duck I have is only 2 months old. So I’ve been collecting the eggs on a daily basis, gently encouraging her to go outside and locking the coop door behind her so that she stays outside all day. I’ve also been fluffing up her bedding and basically destroying her nest. Well the last five days she hasn’t laid an egg at all and also the other laying duck has also now gone broody. The two of them just want to cuddle up in their house all day!
What is happening?
That sounds normal. Not all ducks like to go broody, but those that do will lay a clutch, go broody on it, and then stop laying. They can’t lay while they’re incubating! In this case, you’ve stopped her from being broody, but she still stopped laying because she finished her clutch. She’ll probably start laying again soon, after her hormones return to normal. My Muscovies, which don’t lay very much, usually will lay a clutch of 5-15 eggs, and then stop laying and go broody. After I break up their broodiness, it’s usually a few weeks before they lay again. Since Buff Orpingtons usually lay a bit more than Muscovies do, I think she would probably start laying a little sooner than “a few weeks,” but I’ve never had Buff Orpingtons, so I can’t say for sure.
As for the other duck, I’ve heard that broodiness is contagious. One broody lady will trigger everyone else to go broody. Either that, or they both went broody just because it’s spring and it’s breeding season and they think it’s time to make babies. They can’t tell whether their eggs are fertile or not. The other duck will probably stop laying soon too. And I wouldn’t be surprised if the third young duck will decide to go broody and then stop laying, too.
Broodiness can be annoying for us egg-hungry owners, but it’s just part of owning ducks (except for breeds like Khaki Campbells that rarely go broody). They WILL start laying again, once they get over their broodiness and their hormones return to normal. Hope that helps!
I have a Pekin who is 3 years old. She is quite attached to my other duck who is a male khaki Campbell. I have had them both since the day they hatched and they refuse to be separated. She was born with slipped tendons in both her knees but I take her to the vets on a regular basis to be sure she’s not in pain. She is on a basic pain killer which I give to her every few days as when she was on it regularly she wouldn’t eat, and then my boy wouldn’t either. They live on the Gold Coast in QLD, Australia. It gets quite warm here but they have shade and a small pool. She used to lay quite regularly but I haven’t had an egg from her in ages. She lives mostly off peas but I give her meal worms and grit as much as possible. Even cooked chicken which I found weird but my vet suggested. She is not super active but she never really has been. She swims occasionally and I put her in my large pool on a weekly basis to give her some activity. She has been moulting for AGES and I don’t know why it hasn’t stopped. My boy is not rough with her either. They only mate when I put them in my swimming pool and I usually stop them If he is getting too aggressive. I know there are lots of factors involved here. Not really sure what to do.
She’s not laying for the same reason she can’t finish molting. I’m guessing it’s a diet problem. Peas and mealworms alone are not a diet for a duck any more than peas and bacon would be for a human. Peas are fantastic, but only when balanced with other foods. Cooked chicken and mealworms are great too, but not by themselves. I would suggest feeding her either chicken layer feed with added niacin, or waterfowl feed if you can find it. You can still add peas, mealworms, chicken, and other veggies and foods, but they can’t be a staple by themselves. I once tried feeding my ducks only wheat, and I had problems with elongated molting for adults and stunted growth in babies. One type of food never comprises a full diet. Also, she needs calcium in order to lay.
Beyond diet, there could be other factors. I’m not a vet or experienced with drugs, but I also wonder if being on painkillers for so long could be damaging her health and messing up her system. I can’t say for sure though.
Can she walk? Lack of activity could result in obesity, and not being able to walk could also be stressful. In general, living with a disability could be stressful even without pain.
Have you actually tried to fix the slipped tendon? Here’s a link about slipped tendons in case it has any useful or new information for you: https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/slipped-tendon-in-chick-anyone-ever-try-to-fix-this-experiences.879233/
So definitely change her diet. You might not see improvement immediately, especially since I think you’d be approaching winter in Australia, right? But hopefully she’d start laying again come spring. If not, then perhaps either her disability or the painkillers are somehow affecting her laying.
Hope that helps!
Hi, I’ve got 4 female Aylesbury ducks that I’ve had since they were 2 days old. They are coming up to a year old in a few days. 3 of my girls have laid an egg every day since October but one of my girls has never laid an egg at all. Any advice you could give me? She’s a bit smaller then the others but she seems happy and healthy. Always eating and drinking. I read about changing their diets but if the other 3 are laying fine could it even be their diet that’s the problem?
That’s interesting. I’m not really sure. Are you absolutely positive the duck is a female? Assuming so, I wonder if it could be a genetic problem, possibly caused by inbreeding? I once bought eleven ducklings. At first, they all seemed fine, but then I noticed that one wasn’t growing as fast. The other ten were healthy and the females all laid wonderfully, but this one duck stayed small. As far as I knew, she never laid a single egg. I remember her feathers were also kind of weird. Other than that, though, she seemed fine.
Some kind of health problem would be my best guess, but I don’t know for sure. Maybe she’s just a little weaker, which made her more susceptible to parasites, which hindered her from laying. You could try deworming them, just in case. Many other health problems can hinder laying, even if they don’t have many other external symptoms.
It’s also possible the diet is fine for the other ducks, but not for this one. Ducks can have special dietary needs and sensitivities, just like humans. You might try changing their diet anyway, just in case. I would especially consider increasing protein and calcium.
I’m sorry I can’t help more!
Thanks for getting back to me. I’ll have a look into changing their diets. I’m not fussed if she never lays an egg just curious as to why the other 3 do but not here.
She looks exactly like the others has more energy too just a tiny bit smaller then the others but she always has been. Very cheeky girl too lol
Thanks a lot 😊
I have 2 khaki and 2 Pekin, there is one who is laying rubber eggs and the others only lay maybe twice a week. This has been going on for a few months now. They share a coop with chicken but have a fence in between them. The side that my ducks are on is about 4×6. Could this have something to do with them not laying regular?
That would be 24 square feet for four ducks, right? Is this their night pen only, or do they spend all their time in this area? If it’s just for the night, it should be fine, but it’s a bit too small for a full time enclosure. The rule of thumb is 4-5 square feet per duck for the night, and at least 10 square feet per duck for the day or for a full time pen. I’m not sure how much a small pen would hinder laying, though.
What exactly do you mean by rubber eggs? She’s laying eggs with soft shells? If so, diet could be the problem. They would need more calcium, and maybe more protein as well.
Can you rule out any other possible causes of low laying, like parasites or predators?
Let me know if you have any other questions!
Do you recommend putting fresh cut mulch in a duck run?
It should work as long as it doesn’t contain anything from pressure treated wood. Mulch retains water well, though, and ducks are good at making a mess with their water, so it’s possible it could become muddy and yucky. You could also consider sand.
I have five ducks (4 Welsh Harlequins and a Cayuga) nearly 1 year old who have been laying consistently for almost 6 months. We did get a few small eggs over the past couple of months but I chalked it up to their youth. Now we have not found a single egg for days. They are in a good sized paddock with cattle panel fencing to free range during the day (they also get some layer feed)and locked in an old horse stall w/ chicken wire around the edges at night. They don’t appear to be molting or ill. I can only think it’s a thief – a determined possum or raccoon could possibly climb in from the top. We did find a small snake a few weeks ago – not sure what he thought he was going to do w/ that egg as it was waaayyy too big for him & snakes seem an unlikely culprit for every single egg. No evidence of rats in the barn. I guess w/o a camera it would be hard to know but need to solve this soon!
I don’t know what’s causing this, but here are a few more ideas.
Has anything changed recently? Their feed? Their schedule? Has anything stressful happened?
What kind of weather have you had?
Maybe you could try arriving earlier to let them out of the stall? If you only arrive at 8 AM or something, there will have been plenty of time for a predator to take the eggs. Or what if they are hiding the eggs in the paddock where they free range? In that case, it might work to let them out later.
I think a camera is a good idea, if you can find a way to easily do it. I agree that a thief seems like one of the most likely possibilities. Once an animal finds a source of food, they will usually keep coming back. Raccoons can get into almost anything.
I hope you find an answer soon! I know how frustrating these issues are!
Hi, I have a problem for which I would like some advice. I have a flock of parent stock which are a year old. They initially started to lay in December 2018 and the percentage laid rose up to 75% then we had a dip and problems – the egg percentages dived, I had lame ducks, paralysed ducks and some even died. I eventually isolated the problem as being low phosphorus in the diet. With the help of the supplier I tried to correct the problem remedially but this was not working as the males were having access to the females and mounting them – once they mounted them their weight would damage their backs. I decided to separate the males and the females and re-feed developer diet with the requisite Phosphorus levels for 2 months before rejoining the females. We have executed the programme and the females are now all fine, no sudden deaths have occurred. 17 days ago we changed the feed back to layer feed. Whilst the ducks were on developer the eggs being laid dropped to 7%. I now want to restore the previous levels, after 17 days there has been some molting, secondly we had a lighting problem with heavy rain that knocked out the floodlighting in the park. Right now I have 3 inherent issues 1. The birds are molting, 2. The messing up with the lighting (this has been repaired, but it took a while) 3. Stress caused by separating the females from the males. With this assessment do you think that if all the issues are resolved that normal laying levels can be resumed. Thanks Lewis
Yes, I think that laying will resume once they finish molting, now that everything else seems to have been resolved. I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t (although of course I could be wrong). Be sure that they also have plentiful access to calcium supplements.
To avoid issues of males overmating the females and damaging their backs, I would recommend a ratio of one male per at least six females.
It’s great that you were able to find the problem with the phosphorus! I hope you have success after this is all over!
We have a Muscovy that lives in our yard and has babies in our secret garden every year. This year we locked them in the secret garden after they hatched and they all survived. They are about 4 months now, and we’ve released them back onto the river in our back yard. We still feed them every day, and they stay near our back gate. I have to assume the mom is laying eggs and the babies will some day too. Should I leave a laying box out? How can I capture these eggs?
The mom isn’t necessarily laying. It takes several months for them to get back into laying after having babies. The babies will start laying at approximately six months of age, assuming it isn’t too cold and late in the year by then (it depends on where you live). They will lay somewhere in the vicinity of their home, so it will probably be somewhere nearby. Putting a nest box out near where they like to stay would certainly encourage them to lay there, although it wouldn’t guarantee it. Muscovies like to choose very hidden nests and are picky about where they lay, usually. Even the best nest boxes might not always appeal to a particular duck. But it might help.
Hope that helps!
How do you tell if a duck is too fat? Your article has given me some good suggestions for why my 2 one year old runners stopped laying a couple of months ago. 1) they did moult, but that seems to have been over a couple of weeks. 2) we introduced 4 new 12 week olds about a week before they stopped laying 3) they have food available 24×7 but their duck pellets are mixed 60:40 with wheat, and twice a day they get treats of fruit and veg, they have a huge pen with loads of foraging.
So, it could be they’ll start soon because the stress of moulting and meeting the new girls is over, or it could be they’re fat, or it could be there’s not enough protein in their diet (although there are lots of bugs etc about just now). Any thoughts of where to start?
They finished molting a few weeks ago? Molting definitely has a huge effect on their laying and it can take time for them to kick back in after molting, so that could easily be the cause, although I would expect them to return to laying very soon if so.
The stress from introducing the new ducks could have had an affect, but if that was a few months ago, that shouldn’t be making a difference anymore.
The diet, though, could have an effect. It sounds like a pretty healthy diet, but not one that would maintain top egg production. Wheat is about 12% protein, and the ideal percentage for laying is about 17%. The veggies and fruit are very low in protein, so they would probably lower the ducks’ average protein consumption. And foraging, well, it’s hard to say, but a good chunk of that is veggies too. Unfortunately, constant laying is unnatural and thus can only be maintained with an unnatural diet. Foraging, veggies, and wheat are all healthy and natural, but they also make the ducks lay a more natural amount. If you want to feed them this way, that’s great (that’s what I do, too), but you might not get quite as many eggs as someone who feeds exclusively commercial feed. It can also prolong molting. I remember experimenting with feeding my ducks nothing but wheat (plus forage and veggies) a few years ago. The adults did okay, and they were Muscovies, so they didn’t lay a tremendous amount anyway, but they took forever to molt.
As for being fat, actually, I don’t know of any reliable way to feel them or look at them and tell for sure whether they’re fat or not. Obesity in ducks hasn’t been researched or studied. You might try weighing them and see if they weigh as much as Runners are usually supposed to weigh. If your Runners have plenty of energy and do a lot of running around, and they still have their slender bowling pin shape, you’re probably good. I don’t think you have much to worry about. Runners aren’t prone to getting fat.
Metzer Farms has some insights: https://www.metzerfarms.com/Articles/DucksAndGeeseOverweight.pdf
I agree that feeding once or twice a day is probably better, especially since they have access to forage.
Anyway, if you don’t think anything else in the article could be the problem (predators, hiding the eggs, etc.), then I’m guessing that the lower protein diet has just elongated the molting and is making them take a little longer to get back to normal. If they don’t start laying pretty soon, though, you might want to experiment with changing their diet.
Hope that helps!
That’s all very reassuring. They seem happy and active, and aren’t actually eating much in the way of pellets and wheat at the moment – it’s prime bug season here! The new girls are just coming up to 20 weeks old so I think I’ll see what happens in another month or so when they’ll be due to start laying.
Thanks for your information and suggestions, very helpful.
I am trying use your Contact form to send you a few questions. At the bottom of the form below the Captcha there is a blank box. After I do the Captcha and submit it says incorrcet user input. What am I supposed to answer or put in that box so my message will get sent to you? Why don’t you just say your email address somewhere in the homepage?
so here was my questions:
Thank you for being willing to answer a few Muscovy duck questions. We
currently have Muscovy ducks and we raise them for eating the eggs, occasionally for meat, and for general fun to watch! They are fun. Ours live on the ocean salt water.
1) Is there a way to sex the eggs before they’ve hatched?
2) Just outside their nests the ground has poop (not in the nests). Is it good to wash/clean that area outside the nest, or is it better to not disturb them?
3) When a baby hatches we usually take it out to rear for a week in a special area for babies before selling them. Is reaching into the nest to get the baby each day OK, or is it better to wait until all have hatched before getting them?
4) When a baby hatches sometimes it gets stuck in the shell, is it OK to pull it out or is there a better way?
5) Once the babies have hatched should we leave the empty egg shells in the nest for the mother to eat or outside the nest or something else? If the empty shells are inside the nest will their sharp edges and points hurt the other hatchlings?
Wow a lot of questions! Thank you for your input we really appreciate any and all help.
I’m sorry for the problems you had with the contact form. I use it because if I don’t have a contact form with a captcha, I get way more spam than real emails. But I’ll consider putting an image with my email address on the homepage (if I just write it out, bots will be able to read it). That blank box is strange. I’ve never seen it before and it’s definitely not supposed to be there. It’s probably a bug with the Google Captcha plugin; I’ll look into it. Thank you so much for telling me, because it might have been months before I noticed otherwise.
Now to your questions…
1. Nope. Even commercial hatcheries still have to employ a “chick sexer” to manually sex each chick after they hatch. I wouldn’t be surprised if some kind of egg ultrasound is invented someday, but even if it is, it would probably be very expensive.
2. Sure, you can clean this area. You wouldn’t want to spray water into the nests, and it would probably be better to not do it in early morning when they’re actively laying eggs, but it’s not a big deal to bother them a little otherwise.
3. Well, since you’re taking them away from their mother, you should probably take them as soon as you can so they don’t have a chance to imprint on their mother. Once they do imprint, separating them is extremely stressful. I personally think it would be better to use an incubator if you’re going to be taking the babies away to sell, so she doesn’t go through the stress of sitting for five weeks and not getting any babies, so perhaps you could consider that, or consider letting her keep a couple.
4. It’s possible to assist a duckling, but you have to be very, very careful and only assist once you’re sure the blood vessels have receded. If you try to help too early, you might rupture the blood vessels and kill the duckling. And rather than just pulling them out, it’s better to chip away the shell just enough that they are no longer stuck, and then wait for them to finish the job, because sometimes they haven’t fully absorbed the yolk sac even after the blood vessels are gone, and if you just pull them out, you could rupture what’s left of the yolk sac. I wrote an article about assisting a hatch here: https://www.raising-ducks.com/when-assist-hatching/
5. Some mothers will eat the shells, which is fine. Others don’t, in which case you should certainly remove the shells. I’m not sure if the sharp points would be a risk to other hatchlings, but you’ll need to remove them at some point anyway if the mother doesn’t eat them. Where I live, fire ants love to feed on the membrane and other stuff in the shell, so if the ducks or I don’t remove the shells quickly, the nest can become infested with fire ants. I lost one duckling to fire ants and have been very careful ever since.
I hope that helps! Let me know if you have any other questions.
I have four Indian runner ducks- one female and three males. They are about 6 months old and never fight or are aggressive. But the female is not laying. I’m in New Zealand so it is quite hot. Also we have been having a drought. They also have a homemade shelter/coop thing with a nesting box in it. They have a small pond with fresh water. They forage around the garden all day and get peas as a treat and duck crumble twice a day. They are very active and don’t seem stressed at all. I want to get some ducklings from them. Do I need to separate the males and female? (they are all brothers and sisters).
I’m sorry for the late reply. The female is six months old–so she’s never laid any eggs? Six months old is when many ducks first start laying. I think it’s a bit late for Indian Runners, but it’s not alarming or anything. I think she’s probably just not quite ready to lay yet, but she should start soon. The heat might affect her some. My ducks often stop laying when it’s extremely hot. It might help if you switch her to a layer feed (I think “duck crumble” refers to a generic waterfowl feed, right?), or at least give her extra calcium in the form of oyster shells or crushed up eggshells.
Runners are one of the breeds who sometimes like to drop their eggs in the middle of nowhere, rather than putting them in a nest. Have you looked around? Maybe she is indeed laying and has put her eggs in the pond or garden or something. If they’re locked in the coop for the night, then the eggs are likely to be laid somewhere in the coop, but it’s not a guarantee, as sometimes they lay later in the day.
If you breed your ducks, please make a plan for what to do with the babies. Far too many people breed their ducks for no real reason and then end up with too many extra drakes that they don’t know what to do with. I’m not against people breeding their ducks, but don’t do it if you don’t have a plan for what to do with extra drakes if it’s necessary.
If the drakes are all getting along fine right now and aren’t overmating the female, I don’t think you need to separate them. But that may not last forever. They’re still very young and things could change.
Anyway, if you don’t think any of the other 15 reasons I listed in my article explain her lack of laying, I’m guessing she’s just not quite ready yet but will start on her own within a few weeks.
Hope that helps!
I have three Khaki Campbell females and one male. Only one of our female is laying the others aren’t. One of them is less than is a year old and the other two are two years old. The older ones laid all year round last year, but after their molt and this winter they just stopped except one of them. They free range and have a large pond. I do have chickens and geese , but I have never seen any scuffling. I was assuming one of our chickens are stealing the eggs, but I check for eggs when I let them out.I also don’t let them out until noon to make sure they lay. I have ruled out season, daylight, age, illness, broodiness, weight, and molt. It is currently early spring. Our male does frequently courtship the females on the pond and has mated them a few times based on what i see. They are very active and appear stressed. They have all laid before. Sorry, this is all over the place, but i hope it helped.
So one of the older ones is still laying and the younger one and other older one aren’t?
You say you’ve ruled out daylight, but is there a lot of light in your coop? If they’re in there until noon, and if your coop is rather dark, it could make them think the days are shorter. Maybe you’ve already thought about that, but I thought I’d mention it just in case.
My Muscovies seem to be able to hold their egg for hours and hours if they’re stuck in their pen and want to lay somewhere outside of it. I normally let mine out early in the morning, but there have been days when we had to leave them in longer, and those that were laying outside rarely laid their eggs during that period of extra confinement. Khaki Campbells are unlikely to make any hidden nests, however.
Khaki Campbells generally only lay well for their first two years, and then they start slowing down. I believe they stop at five or six years old. They shouldn’t stop yet, for sure, but maybe this year they’re taking longer to get back into laying after the molt and winter. I’m not sure, though. There aren’t any obvious answers in this case.
Has it been extremely hot where you live? My ducks aren’t laying right now, partly because I messed up their feeding schedule and changed their feed at the same time, and partly because it’s been really hot lately. Do your ducks have water in their coop? Some people don’t give their ducks water during the night, but if they’re in there until noon, they definitely would need it, especially in hot weather. Eggs contain a lot of water. If it’s hot, they also need a lot of shade. Lots of rain or cold weather also could affect them.
What are they eating?
Have you dewormed them? Worms can cause a drop in egg production.
I can’t really say what’s going on. This is all I can think of right now. I hope at least one of them perhaps gave you an idea or possibility. I hope you figure out what’s going on and they start laying again soon! 🙂
I have 4 female khaki and 4 female muscovies we got then over a year ago and they are all over 1 year old. They live with 2 Chinese geese in a very secure 12X24 house with a constant supply of water. We feed them egg layer with 17% protein and the occasional treats. And we let them out at dawn and put away at dusk other than that they have full access to 2 anchors of forest. We also have the same problem with the geese, when we got them they were all laying but they never resumed when we brought them home. There is no sign of molting.
And no extreme temps.
When did they stop laying? Do you mean you’ve had the geese for over a year and they haven’t laid a single egg? Surely the ducks, at least, have laid during the last year.
I’m guessing that they’re laying outside the coop. Ducks occasionally lay at dawn, but my ducks usually lay between 6 and 11 AM.
In 2 acres of forest, there are nearly unlimited places they could hide their eggs. The Muscovies, especially, are almost guaranteed to be hiding their eggs somewhere in that forest, and predators could be eating them there. The Khaki Campbells might be making nests, but it’s also likely they’re just randomly laying their eggs wherever.
Maybe you can try letting them out a bit later. However, especially the first day you do this, they may refuse to lay their egg until you let them out. They actually can hold in their egg, if they’re desperate to lay in some specific nest. But I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kahaki Campbells, at least, will lay in their coop if you wait until 9 AM or so to let them out.
You can also try watching them when you let them out and seeing where they run. They might lead you to their nests.
There are other possibilities, of course (perhaps they’re not getting enough food? perhaps they have worms?), but this is what strikes me as by far the most likely.
As for the geese, they probably wouldn’t be laying this time of year anyway. Geese lay best when there are 11 hours of sunlight, and they quit laying by the time there are 13 hours of sunlight. Depending on where you live, you might have to wait until the days are shorter before they lay again.
I hope that helps and I hope you figure out what’s wrong and start getting eggs again soon!
About 5 weeks ago I purchased 1 male and 2 mature khaki Campbell ducks who were laying with their previous owner. I picked them up and brought them to their new home. The first two days after they arrived, they each laid an egg. Since that point they’ve completely stopped laying. They have adequate food (1lb a day for all three) and water and are in a pen so nothing is taking their eggs. Any suggestions on how to jump start their laying?
Stress probably caused their laying to stop initially, but yeah, if it’s been five weeks, I would have expected them to start up again–unless they started molting. Do you know if they’re molting? Have you seen a lot of feathers around? That will take several weeks and they will not lay if they’re molting.
It sounds like the amount of food is probably enough, but what type is it? Is it designed for laying birds? Do you have extra calcium available?
Have you considered the possibility that the previous owner lied about their laying ability?
If nothing else on this list sounds like the culprit, here are a couple things that might help to restart their laying:
1. Parsley is supposed to be a laying stimulant. I don’t know how strong it is or if it has been proven, but a lot of people use it and insist it works. I’ve tried it and it did seem to work, but it could have been a coincidence, seeing as I was expecting my ducks to start laying more around then anyway. It might be worth trying giving your birds a little bit of parsley for a few days.
2. Supplemental light. Many people who are interested in getting as many eggs as they can will use artificial light in the coops so that their birds don’t notice the days are getting shorter, since lengthening days trigger their laying and shortening days can stop them. It usually doesn’t have as much of an effect on Khaki Campbells as other breeds, but it might still help.
I hope that helps and I hope your ducks start laying again soon!
Thank you for your reply! I don’t believe that they are molting as there are not a lot of feathers present or missing on the girls. I believe that the farm I bought them from was honest and they did lay the first two days. They are eating layer feed that I mix from commercial feed but add oats, sunflower seeds, and DUA. I will try to add some parsley into their diet as I have lots in the garden. Thanks again!
Do you know anything about call ducks? I got a pair 2 months ago, and no breeding or eggs yet. They are 1 1/2 years old, in a large enclosure, on a good diet, have a nest box and pool. Just wondered if perhaps they weren’t good layers?
You’re right, Call ducks are not good layers. They are only useful as pets or ornamental birds. They generally lay 25-75 eggs a year, sometimes even less, so they’re actually one of the worst breeds there is if you’re looking for eggs. They are also seasonal layers and are unlikely to lay past June.
First Muscovy eggs this morning. 4 1/2 months old!
I was wondering if there is something else I need to be doing to guarantee that our new ducks have the best start in their laying careers. We have 4 ducks, 2 ladies and 2 drakes, one being a Crested Pekin, the others possibly a cross of Swedish/Cayuga, other male crested as well.
They arrived to our home April ’20 with 3 chickens and were all raised together. They get along splendidly. The chickens have already started laying about 2 weeks ago, yet the ducks have not started just yet. The only thing I can think of that might be causing a hold on the duck laying is that every night we have to herd/carry the ducks into the bird house, 5x4x5 with the upper levels for the chickens with nesting box offset. Some nights one will make her way into the house, but the others will come to the door and let us know when its time to get to bed. Usually around 8:30pm after the sun has set. Release time for foraging is about 9am, and they get the morning daylight under the eves of the roof.
As for food they have all been on commercial layer formula with a mix of seed scratch, oyster shells, oil seed, and a treat of tomatoes or fruit on occasion. Usually when the treats are getting past their human’s standards of fresh, i.e. wrinkles. They have their own pool that has a enough water to immerse themselves and dunk, which is changed out twice a day. Once our pond is complete with filtration they will not be upset we dumped the water in our garden where they can’t go dig in the ponds. In their pool they also maybe once a month get a treat of live fish.
Would there be anything you might be able to suggest that might help improve our routine, or possibly help get them off to a great start?
How old are they? If the chickens only started two weeks ago, there’s a chance the ducks will still start soon. I hatched ten chickens earlier this year, and the gap between the first ones starting to lay and the last ones was three or four weeks, despite all the pullets being the exact same age. Some variation is normal.
I’m not sure about Crested Pekins, but Swedishes and Cayugas are both seasonal layers. They both lay about 100-150 eggs a year and they usually stop laying somewhere between June and November, and only start again in spring. Many ducks are seasonal layers.
If they were adults when you got them, then they probably would have started laying after they got over the stress of moving. Normally that would take 1-4 weeks, but sometimes stress can trigger a molt, which would prevent them from laying for longer. It could have been a “soft” molt that you didn’t notice. Whatever the cause, it apparently took until this month for them to get settled in enough for the chickens to start laying, but now it might be too late in the year for the ducks to lay. Besides, this is the normal time of year for a full hard molt, and even after molting, ducks often take quite a long time, sometimes a month or more, to start laying again, even when it isn’t winter. So it’s likely you won’t see any eggs until next year, unfortunately.
Oh, and the older they are, the more they will affected by stress and molting.
A few other suggestions:
1. Their coops sounds a little bit small. Is it 20 square feet? Chickens need at least 2-3 square feet and ducks need at least 4-5. So if you have four ducks and three chickens, you need a minimum of 22 square feet. While a cramped night enclosure might not be enough to prevent the ducks from laying, it can certainly cause stress, especially if it’s smelly as well. If the ammonia in the air is strong enough to be detected by a human nose, it’s strong enough to be harming their health.
2. Two drakes and two ducks isn’t ideal. It’s best to have at least four females per drake, or you run the risk of the females being overmated or even killed. Or the drakes not being satisfied with only two females and going for the hens instead, which could kill them. I’m sure everything has been going well so far or you would have mentioned it, but you definitely want to keep an eye out for missing feathers on the back of the ducks’ necks and things like that.
3. Seed scratch is fine as a treat, but it’s essentially junk food, empty calories, so be sure it doesn’t comprise a large percentage of their diet.
I’m not sure if having to herd/carry the ducks in would have an effect. If they freak out at being held or herded, it could be stressful. If they’re relatively tame, it’s probably not an issue.
I hope that helps! I hope the ducks will start laying soon, although I think it’s more likely they’ll wait until spring. Good luck with your new ducks (and chickens)!
May 2020 I was given 2 duck couples – Donald ( Cayuga) & Snowy ( Peking) plus Billy & Daffy ( Cayuga). The females laid regularly either in the nest or pen area. In November 2020 Daffy sat on 9 eggs which hatched 21st Dec 2020. Since then I have had no more eggs. They eat a really healthy GE-free poultry mix and free range during the day.
After reading your article and comments, I put some rat poison under their house which has not been disturbed and left them in their pen area till noon.
Also Daffy is getting whitish spots – is that her going grey?
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Thank you for this very informative article! We bought 8 Khaki Campbells a month ago: 1 duck, 1 drake, and 6 ducklings a few days old. We brought them home on a Saturday, and lo and behold, our duck indeed laid an egg the next morning. Things were going great: she started laying in the middle of the duckhouse, but then graduated to a nesting box. She laid consistently every morning for the next 20 days or so, and then missed a day, laid an egg the next day, and then hasn’t laid for the last 5 days.
If I had to guess, I’d attribute two causes to the issue: my husband wanted to experiment with feeding the ducks some of our home-grown potatoes (Carol Deppe’s suggestion mentioned in her book and Holderread’s book), and that has been subbed for part of the feed in three evening feedings now, starting about a week ago. We also situated our duckhouse (56 square feet, closed nighttime only) and duckyard (600 square feet) near a small pond so when they were trained to where home base was, they could be allowed to free range beyond the duckyard with good water access. We started this a few days ago, too.
So, I’ve outlawed potatoes/experimental feed for the time being, with our layer back on a 16% feed. However, it seems like they’re all doing really well with being able to free range, and I don’t want to take that away from them… I assume they’re getting some food while foraging, but also a lot more exercise, so I have not reduced their feeding to accommodate for starting to free-range.
Also, I suppose another stressor could be the drake… There’s one adult drake and one adult duck… Perhaps he’s become MORE aggressive with mating season getting underway? (It’s late April). He certainly has become MORE aggressive with the ducklings than he had been.
So, I see a few different reasons… change in diet, change in routine, maybe overmating… The feed situation is back to normal. Do I need to keep them in their yard again? I want to give them the space… So egg production is stopped and I’m trying to correct the reasons… Will production come back soon? or do I just need to “ride out” however long it takes her to adjust? Is it the sort of thing where once her system has been shocked, she’s outta commission for a while, even if the stressors are removed? That’s the thing, I’m finding plenty of info on what could be causing the break, but not a lot of info about how soon things might return to more “normal” if I try to correct problems. Any info on what I might expect for a timeline or how to shorten that would be great. Thank you SO much!
Sorry for the late reply. I hope your duck is laying again by now. 🙂 You’ve done good detective work. The diet change and routine change definitely sound like the causes, not to mention changing homes. Ducks and chickens often lay a few eggs in the days following a change of location and then quit. I’m guessing overmating isn’t the issue, but I suppose it’s possible. You’d probably see missing feathers on the back of her neck if so.
I wouldn’t stop letting them free-range. Even if that’s a factor in her taking a break, it shouldn’t affect her for long. But do keep an eye out just in case she is laying or starts laying out of her house/yard.
Yes, I think she’ll start laying again soon, unless she decides to molt. Yes, I think you’ll have to ride it out until she adjusts, and yes, even after stressors are removed, it might take a little while for her to get back to laying.
As for a timeline, I’m not sure because I only have Muscovy ducks, which aren’t the most prolific layers. Some ducks and chickens will stop laying for a month or occasionally longer after changing homes or something. Campbells are generally very prolific, so I’m guessing they wouldn’t take a break for as long. Maybe a week? Maybe up to two weeks after her diet went back to normal? If she molts, then I’m guessing she won’t lay for a month or so.
As for shortening the break, just keep things consistent. You might also try giving her some parsley. It’s supposed to be a laying stimulant.
If you add the potatoes back in, do it slowly–a small amount at first, and gradually increase. But no one food should ever comprise too large a percentage of any diet, no more than 10%. Even then, if their feed is 16% protein and 10% of their diet is potatoes, the total protein content in their diet will be lowered to about 14-15%. Potatoes in limited quantities should be fine, though. We grew some potatoes once and the ducks actually dug up the potatoes and ate them. Apparently raw potatoes aren’t the best for ducks, but ours seemed all right.
P.S. Where in Holderread’s book does he mention potatoes? I couldn’t find it.
Thank you for the input. I can see what you mean about laying for a while after changing homes and then quitting… like maybe there are some eggs already sorta in the pipeline? But yes, I also see what you mean regarding diet… I think the sudden potato overload (boiled and fork mashed, I’ll add) along with it dropping her daily protein percentage level, and I think we did not have her feed level just right at first–maybe not getting quite enough to eat: she was literally choking/coughing a bit from eating so darn fast at chow time! We upped the feed quantity and she seems a lot mellower and happier.
So after cutting out the taters, sticking to the standard feed but upping the quantity, and letting her and the bevy continue to free range, she started laying again after 9 or 10 days. I was so worried because she is our only layer, and Holderread talks about triggering a molt followed by several weeks of no eggs. I didn’t know if there was anything we could do to prevent molting at that point or just wait and see… And worried because I was sure that was symptomatic of stress.
So thanks! Like I say, your article above really helped us troubleshoot the situation more thoroughly than anything else we’ve read, so I appreciate it!
The excerpt in Holderread’s book about feeding potatoes is in the 2nd edition (2001) on pg 234. It’s an excerpt from Carol Deppe’s book “The Resilient Gardener” which has some awesome info on working with ducks as part of a holistic gardening/land management system… a pretty inspiring book, actually. Thank you!
I’m glad she started laying again!
The rule of thumb for how much to feed ducks is however much they can consume in 15 minutes, if you’re feeding them twice a day. In general, a duck needs about 1/4 to 1/3 of a pound of feed per day. You might also try wetting their feed. Ducks have a hard time eating dry, powdery mash.
Yes, stress can trigger a molt. It’s common for ducks to molt when they change homes. I don’t know of anything you can do to prevent it, but it’s nice if she didn’t.
Thanks for the reference in the Holderread book. I still can’t find it, though. I have the same edition (2001), but page 234 is a butchering checklist. I’ll look into Carol Deppe’s book. I’ve heard of it, but I don’t have it.
I have 11 female muscovies and this 8s their first year for laying. I started getting an egg a day for about a week and then I got 2 eggs a day for about 4 days and now there have been no eggs for 5 days. All my girls are happy and healthy, well fed with proper nutrition, I have looked of access points for possible egg thieves and don’t see any but I am seriously confused given that my cayuga and pekins (first year for them too and I have 5 of them) are laying daily occasionally taking breaks where I would get 2 eggs instead of 4 or 5. Any ideas why my muscovy ladies may not have laid anything in the past week?
Muscovies lay in clutches, which usually consist of 5-20 eggs. It sounds like one duck laid for 11 days and the other for 4 days? After a clutch, they’ll take a break for about 1-3 weeks.
I had 12 young females that reached laying age around November/December 2020 (around 6 months old). But it was probably February or March before they’d all laid a clutch. Some Muscovies are very poor layers and only lay 60 eggs a year. And there are others that lay up to 200 eggs a year. Maybe you have some of the poorer producers.
I’m guessing the others will gradually start laying, and the two that have already laid will start again eventually.
The other main possibility is that they’re hiding their nests. I think Muscovies do this more than any other duck breed, and they’re experts at it. We find new hidden nests every few weeks, often one that has never been used before. I don’t know how they keep thinking of new places. Often these nests are under overturned wheelbarrows, under tractor attachments, and other places you’d think they wouldn’t even be able to fit. In my experience, the best way to find hidden nests is watching where they run when we let them out of their coop in the morning.
Either they’re just exhibiting normal Muscovy laying patterns, or they’re hiding their nests. I’m sure there are other possibilities, but those are the two that seem most likely to me.
Hi, I have 2 Cherry Valley ducks, who live in my garden and are free to roam all day. At night they stay in their pen and house. We’ve had them since December and they started laying around late February. They were born early September 2020. They both started laying and we had 2 ducks every day until about a week ago when we had just one and they both started spending most of the day inside their house. They only come out once or twice a day for some peas and a wash and then they go back in. This is very unusual. They are normally wandering around the garden happily all day. What do you think could be the problem? They aren’t eating many of their pellets either. They have fresh water to wash and drink every day several times a day (some would say they are a bit spoilt!
That’s certainly odd. Ducks generally hate being cooped up. I wonder if they escaped a predator attack or something. I have heard of several instances of ducks being nearly attacked by predators or seeing a companion being attacked and responding by withdrawing and staying in their shelter for days. I have seen how aware my own ducks are of predators, too.
Have they been quieter than usual?
It sounds like one or both of them may have been stressed and they’re now scared. I can’t think of many other explanations, unless perhaps they’re not feeling well. Do they have any other symptoms? I’d recommend doing an examination and seeing if you can possibly spot anything else off. If they have any injuries, it might be hard to see due to all their feathers. I once had a chicken who got a major injury under her wing, and since she acted normal, I didn’t even know she was injured until two days before she died.
Hope you can figure it out and things will return to normal soon. And keep an eye out for signs of predators. 🙂
We have 8 Aylesbury females and one drake ranging in age from 3 to 6 years. Some days there are 4/5 eggs, some days 2 and some days none. The eggs seem to be generally declining. They free range a large area with deep pond and go into the duck house from about 9pm to 7.30am. They are fed a mix of grain and layers pellets. The house is kept clean and plenty straw for laying. There is an elec fence so unlikely it’s predators although squirrels steal their grain. There is one duck that has taken to refusing to come in a night but that’s been the case for about 2 months now. Could that be stressing them?
They’re getting old. That sounds like the answer to me.
My Muscovies, who lay at a similar rate as most Aylesburies, seem to lay for about 6-8 years. I have a 7-year-old who I thought was no longer laying, but she did lay one clutch a few weeks ago. She hadn’t laid (that I knew of) for months prior to that clutch.
I think they’ve just naturally slowed down, but perhaps there’s more to it. Why is the duck refusing to come in? Does she get pecked/bullied if she does come in? Does she have a nest outside of the coop and she wants to sit on it at night? It could be that she’s stressed and wouldn’t be laying, but I don’t think it would affect the other ducks unless her refusal to come in is caused by fear or something that’s affecting them too.
You could also experiment with cutting the extra grain out of their diet. The grain would lower the total protein levels they’re getting and may cause other imbalances. It might not be a problem, but it might be worth cutting it for a few weeks and seeing if they lay more.
Also, when was the last time they molted?
That’s so much for reply.
There is evidence of them molting now but can’t tell if it is all of them or some of them.
We just moved to the house in March and the ducks came with it. I got in touch with previous owner and he said the weather has been too dry (unusual for Scotland) and that can cause them to stop laying as well. Hopefully now that normal downpour has resumed they will lay again.
The one that won’t come in was injured (We don’t know how) and has been nesting on the bank (no sign of eggs). She seems to have healed but still won’t come in. She might not be hungry enough, we make sure she has her own portion. I think she is one of the older ones.
It sounds like there are various things going on causing their laying to be lower than normal, then. Location changes can stress them and often trigger a molt, during which they either don’t lay or only lay sporadically. Molting can take up to three or even four months.
Odd weather could certainly have an effect, especially extreme heat.
The one that won’t come in, you mean she’s broody? That would not only mean she wouldn’t lay but would also explain why she’s not coming in. Many ducks will stay broody until they get ducklings, unless you break their broodiness. Others will eventually give up, but it can take a long time. If she’s nesting, I recommend breaking her broodiness by destroying her nest and/or blocking her access to it. Ducks will often sit even if their eggs are gone. I wonder if a predator is getting in after all, or if her eggs rolled into the pond or something.
Hi , we have 6 ducks and a drake , we got them in September last year at 19 weeks , 2 Indian runners , 2 khaki Campbell and 2 white with yellow beaks white breed escapes me ..
They have a healthy diet , they roam freely for Miles every day along the stream over the hills and far away and return when it’s get dusk to go into their house , yurt return periodically in the day too to eat., they genuinely are very happy well looked after ducks ..
Over the last few days eggs have dwindled to the last couple of days none at all .. prior to this their eggs were still warm and freshly laid when I opened them up in tte morning Can you advise on what the problem may be please ,? I’ve had a hunt around and can’t see they’re laying elsewhere , but I have noticed there’s white ish almost meringue like stuff in their stools ?
It could be that they’re starting to molt. I think they’d be about due for a molt.
If this was a very sudden drop and it was only a few days ago, perhaps they had a predator scare or something recently. Has their behavior, food consumption, or anything else changed?
Some white in poop is normal, it’s just urates. You’ve never seen it look like that before? Have you looked before to know what’s normal?
Or does it look like this? https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/problem-with-duck-white-poop-photos.1274114/
If they roam freely, then if they decided to start laying elsewhere, you might have a hard time finding their nest. I often don’t find my ducks’ hidden nests until they go broody.
Are they still not laying? Hope they’re all right and you can figure out what’s going on.
My duck laid eggs and harsh but babies die why?
Did the ducklings hatch or not? If so, were they in a safe, protected place? Did they have access to food and water?
If you mean they died before hatching, there are many possible reasons. Were the eggs fertile? Was the duck sitting on them full time? How many was she sitting on? Were the eggs clean and dry?
Hope you can figure it out.
I have kaki Campbell ducks in their second year and got very few eggs this year, great last year. Seemed to be casting feathers all summer. I feed them layer pellets, oyster shells and plenty water.
Hope you can help.
Do you know if they actually fully molted? Maybe they’re struggling to finish molting? Layer pellets are the correct type of food for them, but maybe they need a little extra protein for some reason. You could try supplementing with gamebird feed, turkey feed, cat food, or mealworms. A lot of people feed their birds extra protein while they’re molting to help speed up the process.
Is there anything stressing them? Chronic stress is a very common cause of poor laying. Do they look healthy–bright-eyed, active, with clean feathers? How many drakes do you have? Do they have plenty of space?
You might try deworming them.
Winter is approaching, so you may not be able to expect many eggs in the coming months anyway, but if they laid less than normal over the course of the entire year, something might be off. Of course, they do lay less eggs with each consecutive year, but they usually don’t slow down much in their second year.
Hope you can figure it out.
Further to your reply about ducks laying very poor, the ducks look healthy, I have now put them on corn this last week but still no eggs. Where can I get a treatment for worms? Last winter I put a light with them to lengthen day but no success. What turkey feed can I try would it be growers as I think that may only be meal.
You can probably find chicken dewormers at vet, farm, and feed stores. Amazon may have some as well. Papaya seeds are an effective natural dewormer. Doing a worm egg count test first may be a good idea, to confirm if worms actually are a problem or not.
The light thing is a bit tricky. You have to do it just right or you might cause more harm than good. Maybe you made a mistake with it.
I don’t recommend adding corn to their diet. That’s just excess calories and may make them lay less. Yes, turkey grower is good. It probably shouldn’t be their full ration, but it’s a great protein supplement since it’s around 30% protein.
Do you sell duck eggs ? If so how much ?
No, sorry. I don’t live in the USA. I only sell eggs to friends and neighbors.
I was just wondering how much do you sell them for to your friends and family .
Just trying to get an idea of cost.
Oh, I see. I sell mine for about $2.50 US a dozen, but again, that’s just to friends, I don’t live in the US, and I’m not making a profit off it. Most people sell pasture-raised free range chicken eggs for more than that, and duck eggs cost more than chicken eggs. You can probably sell yours for at least $5 a dozen, and up to $12 a dozen.
You could take a look at what pasture-raised chicken eggs from small farms are selling for in your area, and then raise the price by 50% (since duck eggs are around 50% bigger than jumbo chicken eggs) or more.
I have two females and I recently introduced a drake to them. They get on well and he is very protective of his girls but they have not laid many eggs since he has been around and I wondered how long it will last?
I would guess a couple of weeks. Introducing a new drake can cause some stress for the flock, even if they’re getting on well.
My ducks were chased and mauled by a dog they have not layed since that was 4 months ago
Sorry to hear that. I have heard of hens that never laid again after a major traumatic incident. Did your ducks molt or are they molting? Stress can also trigger a molt, which can cause them to not lay for several months.
In my experience, they usually don’t lay for a month or two after experiencing something traumatic. Four months is a long time but not unheard of, especially if they were injured and took time to heal. I don’t know if there’s much you can do to encourage them to lay again except try to remove any remaining sources of stress and make sure their diet is good and optimized for laying.